Vortex admin rights detected что это
Vortex admin rights detected что это
К такому я не был готов, я даже не понимаю сути проблемы с зависимостями. С моей колокольни проблемы вообще нет, есть порядок загрузки, все совместимо, так пусть запускается, но нет. Через ярлык игра не открывается вообще, а через этот менеджер выдает ошибку о не установленных зависимостях. Типа «Когда этот плагин должен загружаться по отношению к чуть ли не половине других плагинов, даже с учетом того, что они сильно отличаются?» – это я так вижу, потому что я не понимаю, какая может быть блин зависимость между модом на фермерских животных и студентами Винтерхолда? Не ну студенты может тоже животные, но все же? Или Охоторожденный с Иммерсивными патрулями/Шрамами для редактора рас?
В общем выглядит вот так:Памагите
Vortex работает весьма своеобразно. Все плагины должны быть причислены к группам. Те что известны ему из листа Loot он сам причислит к группам, те что неизвестны, надо причислять вручную. В Vortex-е нет возможности передвигать плагины по списку вручную, только с помощью групп и правил.
То есть. Сначала Вам надо создать свои группы если не хватает основных, назначить плагины в группы и по ходу дела, назначать правила. Некоторые правила Vortex выставит сам и обойти их нельзя.
Внутри групп плагины будут отсортированы в соответствии с правилами и листом Loot.
Поскольку почти все моды у меня перепакованы и многие переведены, то пришлось создавать только свои группы.
А внутри групп и между ними действуют правила
Это только часть правил 
. Меньшая.
И не важно какая игра Скайрим или Фаллаут, порядок действий один и тот же. Только у Вас базовые и собственные группы будут свои.
У Вас уже есть заданные правила. По моему опыту, надо найти неотменяемое правило и убрать все конфликты с ним.
«Admin rights»
«Vortex is not intended to be run as administrator!» messages have started to pop up, with some extremely accurate advice about not running Vortex as administrator.
Unfortunately, it’s not being run as administrator.
The message appears only once, if you continue it won’t show up again.
The screenshot you’ve shown doesn’t actually prove Vortex isn’t run as admin, it just shows that the exe isn’t set up to enforce it.
If you’re actually running Vortex as a regular user account and get this message your system may have seriously broken security settings.
What Windows version is this? Windows 10?
7 x64. Hasn’t been set up as admin, I’m not running as admin account, and neither the exe nor shortcut push for it which is why I brought up the issue. You’re right about it only being once, though.
Did you maybe disable UAC? That would also cause this. And since you can read that UAC is evil and useless all over the internet (repeated by people without any clue), this wouldn’t be too surprising.
Actually I don’t think disabling UAC would cause this.
What vortex does (in the background) is call
«fsutil dirty query c:» (or whatever the letter of your system drive is) and then see if it returns «access denied» (these command line tools don’t use UAC, they simply fail if the user doesn’t have the necessary permissions).
It is my understanding that no windows version should allow you to run that command without admin rights.
I’ve noticed that Vortex can’t launch external applications if they are set to run as Administrator. F4SE Loader being the best example, on my PC if it’s not set to run as administrator, when you try to launch it, it just opens the default Fallout 4 Launcher. Unless Vortex is set to also run as administrator trying to launch F4SE from the dashboard just does nothing, no messages, no popups, Vortex just sits there silently and doesn’t even tell you why it can’t launch the program.
Actually I don’t think disabling UAC would cause this.
What vortex does (in the background) is call
«fsutil dirty query c:» (or whatever the letter of your system drive is) and then see if it returns «access denied» (these command line tools don’t use UAC, they simply fail if the user doesn’t have the necessary permissions).
It is my understanding that no windows version should allow you to run that command without admin rights.
If you disable UAC, an admin account basically becomes a permanent admin account, i.e. every single process is running with full admin rights.
I haven’t actually tried it, but I’d assume that fsutil would work right away when UAC is disabled. Did you try that implicitly?
Ohhh, yeah, you’re right I guess.
Well tbh, if you run with an administrative account and disabled UAC then the warning is entirely appropriate so I don’t see why we should disable it in that case.
Hate to display my ignorance all over the internet, but here goes. I have never paid attention to Admin rights before since (it seems) I only have ONE user, and that is «Administrator». I do not «log on» to my computer, it just boots straight to Windows. When I try to Switch User, it just lists ONE user: the Administrator.
I’m more than a little concerned by the suggestion (I’m inferring) that somehow ALWAYS being Administrator, always running programs AS Administrator (since, again, that’s the only user set up) is somehow putting my system at risk. I’ve not had any issues YET (knock on wood) with malicious programs, etc but I might’ve been lucky all along.
being Administrator? I’ve seen the «Run as Administrator» option when right clicking a file, it’s just never been an issue since (once more for those in back) I already AM logged on as Administrator and hence (I believe) everything I run, runs as Administrator.
Getting a new Windows 10-enabled PC in a week or so (this one is still Windows 7), and I’d like to get that one set up properly. Thanks!
EDIT: Created a new, standard user account but (of course) all my personalized stuff is gone; fine for my new PC to start out that way next week (now that I know I
want to be logged in as Administrator all the time) but I reeeeeally do not want to go to the hassle of setting everything up for this new Standard user account. So I guess I’m wondering if Vortex CAN be installed as Administrator so I can play around and learn it on this older rig, or if it’ll just be a waste of time to try.
It’s good that you ask this question, it is actually a bit confusing. When you set up a windows system like normal the first user you create is an administrator account.
But that doesn’t mean that everything that account does is done «as administrator». Like just because a cop has a badge and uniform doesn’t mean he can’t do anything as a civilian anymore.
Normally your account, even the «administrator» account is limited, for example it can’t create files in c:\program files and thereby can’t install applications just like that. When you try to do that an (uac) dialog shows up asking you to confirm that this application (the installer) is allowed to make changes to your system.
This is an important security feature. Many people think that this is to protect you from yourself by making you confirm changes but that’s not the point, it’s about protecting you from malicious software.
If you run an administrator account and disable uac you actually run everything as admin and yes, then you are really in danger because then every software you start also has unrestricted access to your system all the time. If anything you use is malicious that software is able to do anything on your system, including spreading itself everywhere, like disabling your virus scanner or adding exceptions so the malware doesn’t get detected any more, installing a keylogger that then starts when your system starts and sends everything you type including passwords and credit cards to criminals, installing a botnet client that then uses your system to criminally harm others and, depending on the laws in your country, that may make you a co-perpetrator due to your negligence.
But also just bugged software may then accidentally delete/overwrite files that the software isn’t supposed to be able to access or open doors for other malicious software. For example a bugged web browser may allow malicious websites to harm your system. And Vortex is a webbrowser (chrome) in the backend which is practically always a few months outdated.
With UAC at the very least you get a dialog «application x is trying to make changes to your system» and when you don’t know why it would do that you can refuse. Without it you would never know something is going on.
Yes, it does make things more inconvenient, not just for you. My life would be so much easier if I just told people «run vortex as admin» because everyone in this community would apparently do it and it would immediately «fix» 2/3 of all bug reports I get and make a lot of code unnecessary. But it would weaken the security of your PC and I don’t like compromises in that regard.
Again, just because you’re the only user on your PC and even if you’re just using it to play games, you can still get into actual real-world trouble from malware.
«Admin rights»
I don’t understand the question «how to go about installing after receiving this msg».
This topic is about a message users are receiving after they installed Vortex when they try to start it, so I can’t be sure what message you’re referring to.
If however you didn’t receive the UAC dialog and instead on startup get the dialog «Vortex shouldn’t be run as admin» then you have a non-standard windows config where UAC is disabled. How you enable it is a bit system dependent so I don’t want to give a step-by-step guide but you can seach the internet for one of the many «how to disable UAC» guides and do the inverse.
Then, keep note of all websites that had such a guide and make sure you never take PC advise from them.
I’ve downloaded the recommended one step installer. When I open it, I get the standard UAC warning, ‘are you sure you wanna do this?’ sorta thing. When I say run, it begins to install. The install window bar completes, the Vortex logo appears, and then I get the warning above. The error window is entitled ‘Admin Rights Detected’ and the text below says ‘vortex is not meant to be run as administrator, if you’re doing it because you’re having permission issues, please stop, you’re just making it worse,’ etc, etc. I then have the options to quit the install, or ignore the warning. I’m unsure how to proceed, so I hit quit, which cancels the install. So, as someone working with a single account on win7, which is admin by default because it’s the only account, should I hit ‘ignore’ and everything will be fine, or are there additional steps I have to take to make sure that Vortex will run properly?
Did you run the installer as an administrator?
I’m the admin on my system, and the only time I saw that warning is when I purposely tried to run Vortex as an Admin.
Nope. As I stated in my first post, I didn’t right click and say open as admin. I have both simply double clicked to open, as well as right clicked and specifically chosen open rather than open as admin.
Awake at stupid o’clock
Did you run the installer as an administrator?
I’m the admin on my system, and the only time I saw that warning is when I purposely tried to run Vortex as an Admin.
Nope. As I stated in my first post, I didn’t right click and say open as admin. I have both simply double clicked to open, as well as right clicked and specifically chosen open rather than open as admin.
Wow, I really don’t get that, I’m the admin on my system and I can install stuff for days without the UAC popping up.
Oh, now I know why, I’ve got mine set to OFF
Did you run the installer as an administrator?
I’m the admin on my system, and the only time I saw that warning is when I purposely tried to run Vortex as an Admin.
Nope. As I stated in my first post, I didn’t right click and say open as admin. I have both simply double clicked to open, as well as right clicked and specifically chosen open rather than open as admin.
Wow, I really don’t get that, I’m the admin on my system and I can install stuff for days without the UAC popping up.
Oh, now I know why, I’ve got mine set to OFF
You should look at Tannin’s post. Running on an admin account with the UAC turned off is a really bad idea.
Awake at stupid o’clock
You should look at Tannin’s post. Running on an admin account with the UAC turned off is a really bad idea.
Yea, didn’t even r3ealize it was off.
No wonder I haven’t been getting annoyed with UAC messages
Have to admit that I’m getting a bit upset that I can’t get any resolution to this issue. The problem isn’t addressed here, or in the FAQ, or anywhere else online that I can find. I want to use Vortex, but it’s been two days now that I’ve been unable to play FO4 because I don’t know if it’s safe to install this thing.
Thank you for replying to my issue and for providing this link, following this guide is the closest ive come to getting anywhere with this issue.
Unfortunately nothing has changed, i still dont have any admin account access. It seems i have encountered another windows paradox where i need admin rights to restore admin rights, lol.
The partial good news is that i have been watching ‘Gophers’ youtube tutorials on how to use vortex and they have been a great help so i can at least still play FO4 confidently using vortex.
(Gophers you tube vortex tutorials.)The other good news is that my son in law (who built my machine) says he may be able to give me admin rights via booting my system from the windows disc and creating a admin account from there. or something like that.
This software should not install or even be downloadable at all without a warning that says
«This software requires a special set of custom settings for windows user. it will not function properly without them not all users will be able to use this setting. Vortex is configured to work with UAC enabled systems only. If you are not one of the select few using UAC. Vortex is not intended to be run as administrator. If that’s what you want you should use some other software. It is neither the intent or design of this software to enable users who have taken the step to lawfully and rightfully disable their UAC.»
Since we are making a religious choice to lynch any users with the right to disable «User Account Control» It really should be made CLEAR to anyone before they download the dixie-cup and take a sip of the poisonous fruit-punch. We don’t want any non-UAC believers getting in the way of our faithful ascension into User-account-controlled heaven.
Im not a good christian UAC sheep. So i guess im forbidden from entering Vortex heaven, or at least scowled at with a visitor pass if i do push past the pearly warning gates.
I find it ironic, that a mod-manager designed to help swiftly and uniformly change and edit features and functionality in games users want to go beyond, discriminates against users who want to go beyond and to change and edit features and functionality in their os.
Vortex devs and enthusiasts should be careful about this polarized decision against UAC disabled choices going forward.
Awake at stupid o’clock
Im not a good christian UAC sheep. So i guess im forbidden from entering Vortex heaven, or at least scowled at with a visitor pass if i do push past the pearly warning gates.
I find it ironic, that a mod-manager designed to help swiftly and uniformly change and edit features and functionality in games users want to go beyond, discriminates against users who want to go beyond and to change and edit features and functionality in their os.
Vortex devs and enthusiasts should be careful about this polarized decision against UAC disabled choices going forward.
Disabling your UAC is a dumb thing to do.
Interesting comments though, pretty dramatic.
And a 7 month old thread necro to boot.
Now, unless you’re here for some support.
Well i don’t really see any support offered for those with UAC disabled. only reminders that their choice is bad. all the persons who have UAC disabled on this thread are told they shouldn’t be running with UserAccountControl disabled. and that’s the end of it,
-except- for the few whom have attempted to follow that advice, and in the attempt lost their administrator account for doing so, leaving them with an even more pressing problem.
It seems rather similar to converting to Christianity. Dammed if you do, dammed if you don’t. Shame on them for ever taking control into their own hands. ～ And wanting to mod.
If the thread is 7 months old, maybe its because less people even care to install and run with a software that only caters to UAC users. ⋆Shrug⋆ Its not the only option out there. Just the only Biased one.
Besides, Zombies have been part of religion since Jesus rose from the dead.
«Admin rights»
I get a message Admin rights detected even if i dont run it as administrator
Did you disable UAC? How do you start Vortex?
Hi, I’m Anders. First time poster.
I run a single user pc (win10). It was set up with one account which is a administrator account i.e. me.
When installing Vortex for the first time i heeded the message about not installing under an admin account so i changed my account setting to a standard account instead and went ahead and installed Vortex, no problems.
Trouble is i have now decided that for irrelevant reasons that Vortex is not for me i would rather go back to Nexus MM.
I googled this issue last night (Aussie time) and found about 20 different ways to change back to admin status and my pc gave me about a dozen error codes and messages to say i couldn’t do that. Most of the messages were saying «you cant do that without admin privileges» Doh!
I even went as far as contacting Microsoft help and having a guy remotely take over my pc and run through different scenarios trying to reestablish my admin rights (which were the same procedures i went through before) but to no avail.
He said the only way was to do a backup and reset of my pc, fair enough i said, he gave me some brief instructions and left me to it. Guess what? You cant do a back up and reset without frickn damn admin rights.. Aaarrgghh!
Now, hindsight is a wonderful thing as they say and if i had created another user account while still an admin and installed vortex under that i’d be fine, also if i hadn’t uninstalled NMM i would also be ok (sort of, id still need admin for other stuff) but i didnt so here we are.
I know that this is ultimately a windows issue rather than a Vortex issue but this all started because i wanted to install Vortex (Its not Vortex’s fault, it didnt cause this i know that) but im wondering if others have this issue i.e followed the advice, changed their mind but cant reinstall NMM.
Awake at stupid o’clock
It’s good that you ask this question, it is actually a bit confusing. When you set up a windows system like normal the first user you create is an administrator account.
But that doesn’t mean that everything that account does is done «as administrator». Like just because a cop has a badge and uniform doesn’t mean he can’t do anything as a civilian anymore.
Normally your account, even the «administrator» account is limited, for example it can’t create files in c:\program files and thereby can’t install applications just like that. When you try to do that an (uac) dialog shows up asking you to confirm that this application (the installer) is allowed to make changes to your system.
This is an important security feature. Many people think that this is to protect you from yourself by making you confirm changes but that’s not the point, it’s about protecting you from malicious software.
If you run an administrator account and disable uac you actually run everything as admin and yes, then you are really in danger because then every software you start also has unrestricted access to your system all the time. If anything you use is malicious that software is able to do anything on your system, including spreading itself everywhere, like disabling your virus scanner or adding exceptions so the malware doesn’t get detected any more, installing a keylogger that then starts when your system starts and sends everything you type including passwords and credit cards to criminals, installing a botnet client that then uses your system to criminally harm others and, depending on the laws in your country, that may make you a co-perpetrator due to your negligence.
But also just bugged software may then accidentally delete/overwrite files that the software isn’t supposed to be able to access or open doors for other malicious software. For example a bugged web browser may allow malicious websites to harm your system. And Vortex is a webbrowser (chrome) in the backend which is practically always a few months outdated.
With UAC at the very least you get a dialog «application x is trying to make changes to your system» and when you don’t know why it would do that you can refuse. Without it you would never know something is going on.
Yes, it does make things more inconvenient, not just for you. My life would be so much easier if I just told people «run vortex as admin» because everyone in this community would apparently do it and it would immediately «fix» 2/3 of all bug reports I get and make a lot of code unnecessary. But it would weaken the security of your PC and I don’t like compromises in that regard.
Again, just because you’re the only user on your PC and even if you’re just using it to play games, you can still get into actual real-world trouble from malware.
This is a fantastic answer and very informative. However, it doesn’t answer the main question, at least for me, which is how to go about installing after receiving this msg. Like another poster, I have a single account on my pc (win7). I have admin rights. I’m not right clicking on the Vortex exe and saying open as admin, I’m just saying open and I get that msg. So can I safely install it, or do I have to make a new account or do something to my current account or what? I’m looking at install videos, but none seem to be addressing this issue.
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Ноябрьское обновление 2021:
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Обновите Vortex до последней версии.
Vortex обновлен для повышения производительности за счет исправления известных ошибок и отслеживания технологических достижений. Вы можете столкнуться с этой ошибкой, если используете устаревшую версию Vortex. Следовательно, обновление Vortex до последней версии может решить проблему.
Если вы по-прежнему не можете решить проблему, попробуйте использовать NMM (Nexus Mod Manager) с Vortex. Затем загрузите моды через NMM и используйте Vortex для порядка загрузки.
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